Wildfire is again wreaking havoc across parts of Washington state, devastating farms and ranches as well as homes and entire communities.

While many have been led to believe that climate change is to blame for this destructive new trend of massive fire storms, state mismanagement of forests and rangeland are a major part of this recipe for disaster that’s almost never talked about.

Rancher Rod Haeberle has grazed cattle in the high country near Okanogan, WA for decades, and joins Dillon to explain the harmful changes he’s seen in the state’s approach to land management that primed these critical areas for the havoc that’s unfolding now.